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Some postscripts:

1) Another interesting way to rephrase it is that a single real number can contain an infinite amount of information. In contrast, other numbers discussed in this chapter can only encode finite amounts.

2) You might also encounter an alternative way to define reals using Cauchy sequences. In essence, we define ℝ in terms of converging sequences of rational numbers that get arbitrarily close to any real (and in the limit at infinity, point to the real *exactly*). As with Dedekind cuts, we're not saying how each of these sequences looks like, just that every real number is a converging sequence of rationals. Both of these methods are functionally equivalent; if you're interested in rational approximations of reals, you might get a kick out of this article: https://lcamtuf.substack.com/p/approximation-game

3) In the first article in the series (https://lcamtuf.substack.com/p/09999-1), we asserted that reals follow the Archimedean property, i.e., they don't include infinitesimals. In standard mathematical education, this is a consequence of an ad-hoc axiom of completeness, but it also follows pretty naturally from the construction outlined in the article. Every integer is finite. If so, the stepover between rational numbers can be arbitrarily small, but it's always strictly larger than any conceivable notion of an infinitesimal (ε = "1/∞"). Every distinct real is a distinct partition of ℚ; the distance between partitions made for x and x+ε is smaller than the spacing of rational numbers, so such partitions would be indistinguishable and thus, would boil down to the same real.

4) In the same article, I introduced hyperreals without explaining their construction in a rigorous way. Hyperreals extend reals by adding infinitesimal and infinite quantities. There are several ways to approach this task, but one is to express infinitesimals as sequences of real numbers that converge to zero at different rates (and infinite values as the inverse).

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I got a D in analysis. I can believe that 0 = {} but I had a hard time believing 1 = { 0, {}}. I can see how a Dedekind cut defines numbers but thats all a x b to me is not really {a-lower, a-upper} x {b-l, b-u}. Really the LUB was nonsense to me except for one thing, .9999... = 1.

Cardinality, ordinality and measure are what we have in the real world. I do believe there are irrational, transcendent, uncomputable and other numbers. Hyper reals, not sure, its just epsilon to me.

"Some of the tiles are redundant (e.g., 2 is the same as 4/2), but this is not important for the proof" there is therefore not an exact matchup on diagnolization of Q.

The professor said series do not equal sequences when I asked why can't you use the series test on a sequence. Isn't that what category theory is for.

Then there was how a differential equation is not a difference equation,

One Graduate student said quantum theory is not commutative and another professor said it was.

I also don't get Tropical analysis, the Collatz conjecture, modular forms and many other things.

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